I head Fox Valley Diesel does it. They are between Oshkosh and Neenah.
I was going to send mine to Cruzin Performance they charge around $11/injector.
http://www.cruzinperformance.com/
If I get a chance I'll check fox valley diesel on the way to school tomarrow.

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Well the injectors came in last night. The guy that I bought them from sent them acrossed the country in a box without wrapping the injectors in any kind of cushion. They also look a bit worse for wear, so I'll be sending them out to cruising performance to see if they are damaged beyond repair.

Also the emanage is on it's way, so hopefully that will be hooked up in the car this weekend patiently waiting for turbos to go in.

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If you want help hooking the e-manage up let me know. I'm pretty good with wiring and would like to see how it installs and works.

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Absolutely. I'll let you know when it gets here, and then we can set up a better timeline.

~ Side note:

I got the main unit along with the software and cable for a laptop, because I have a laptop that will stay in the car already, and I already had the Greddy Profec B spec II after hearing good things about that, and mixed reviews about the E-1 that hooks directly to the main emanage.

I also got the injector harness to control timing. I did not get the pressure sensor, because I had heard that it was just as easy to advance timing based on airflow, which it reads any-who. This also left me with an open spot to run my WB02 sensor in to log when I get some lift time at my uncle's shop.

possibly in the future I may look into getting the "additional injector" harness for an water based intercooler sprayer, but I believe I will try what I have for now.

That being said, is there any peices to this set up that I am missing. I don't believe so, but figured I would double check. I was thinking about mounting it in the glove box. The only problem that I can see with this is pluging into the ports.

comments, sugggestions, jokes, and female full frontal nudity welcome.

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I think you will need to upgrade the software to the gold edition to read the 5V wideband output (Free from E-Manage Form).
I don't know how the extra injector output will work for an IC sprayer control it would probably work better with a temp sensor or a pressure switch ( I haven't decided which I will use yet).
It would work for a W/A injection or propane.
http://www.emanageforums.com/

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Well, the car comes out of pergatory(sp?) tonight. I have the keys in my pocket, and I'm so excited I can hardly sit at my desk. It's like I can hear little BOV hisses already. I think it may just be my computer though.

No sign of the e-manage even leaving Alamo motorsports yet. I want there intercoolers.

I suppose I should bring tools...

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So I have my car all apart, and with the help of my fearless attack pigeon and my new pressure tester from 3sx performance I have discovered a large boost leak. At first I thought that it was the y pipe, but after holding that in my hand and still hearing the leak I know it's something else. (Engineering process of elimination. State the obvious...) It is either coming from the Tee right after the MAF, the tube feeding the rear turbo, or the greddy type S blow off valve. I'm spraying everything down with soapy water, but nothing seems to bubble. I know it's coming from somewhere right there, though. The leak is loud! Is there a part down there that is common/prone to leaking? I'm also hosing things down with PB Blaster, like the fuel pump, and exhaust bolts. The air compressor freightens the Pigeon...

Still haven't heard from alamo motorsports about my e-manage. nothing...

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What about the vac tube that goes from the rear intake tube to the rear valve cover?

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I'm sure that the biggest leak that I found last night was the BOV. The Greddy type-S has two nipples. one coming out at a 90 degree to the purple "hat" and the other coming out at a 45 degree. From the instructions that I used to put it in that nipple that comes out at a 45 is left to atmosphere, and the nipple coming out at a 90 gets run to the y-pipe. The set screw makes no difference as to the amount of air coming out or when it comes out. (ie: right away, after 2 lbs pressure, after 50 lbs pressure)

Is this suppose to be or is my BOV operating/installed incorrectly?

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That line is there to for a boost line to equalize the pressure on both sides of the diaphragm to allow for faster response of the BOV. BUT with it hooked up that way, you are totally depending on the spring to keep it closed under boost. The diaphragm seal is very weak and over time, it wears out.

The lower nipple will leak when doing an intake pressure test because you're pressurizing a side of the intake tract and BOV that is not under pressure in normal operation. Think about it for a sec.

I'd cap the nipple. Use a ziptie to secure the cap.

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Some people are saying they arent able to use the gold features without making 2 small changes to the e-manage board. Picture here: http://roycormier.com/emanage/post-20-1112400046.jpg

Mine won't even let me upgrade the firmware with the gold version, and since i've only had the e-manage for a week I don't feel like messing with the circuit board just yet...

Its really simple to wire up, just make sure you print out a pin diagram of the ECU. The instructions it comes with are worthless.

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Roy ~ Thanks, I also read about some difficulties on the emanage forums. I'll check into that when I need it...

Greg ~ Are you saying that you would hook the BOV up differently? I thought the spring was good in the BOV for up to 15 or so PSI... What else would hold the thing shut? A spring seems like a fine idea to me... Maybe I just need a stiffer one.

Diaphrams going bad. The BOV is less than a year old, I was really hoping it would last longer than that... I also thought you could get a rebuild kit fot the type-S and seeing as they were popular with many cars I figured rebuild kits would be readily accessable in the future... I sure hope it's not bad already... maybe I need to step up to the type R though. My car does spike to 1 bar on hard accel with the stock set up, which is a frog's hair shy of 15 psi.

I'll check back after changing tires and feeding a pigeon...

thanks guys

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No, there's nothing wrong with your BOV or the way you have it hooked up. It's just the way you were running the test. There was air comming out of the other nipple because there's pressure on the outlet side of the BOV. There's never pressure on the outlet, only vaccum (cuz the turbos are sucking thru those intake tubes).

If you would have setup the test where the BOV was "open atmosphere" (meaning the outlet just vents into the engine bay instead of into the intake "y" tube), there woudn't be any air comming out of that nipple (unless the diaphram was worn out).

Does that make sense? Either way, cap that nipple so it doesn't let air in or blow air out.

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Yes, that makes alot of sense. I was just unsure of wether or not you were saying there was a different way of hooking the 90* nipple off the BOV up. Or that there was a way that the spring would not be holding the pressure back by itself... which didn't make sense to me. I understand now.

If it's open does it allow air to suck in when under vacuum, or is there a check valve? Because wouldn't that be unmetered air entering behind the MAF? I ran the BOV closed loop to keep track of all that air, and now I find out it's got a hole in the side...



I'll check this tonight, but I think I found the biggest HISSS We'll get to pull all this stuff to play with turbos anyway.


Anyone dealt with Alamo motorsports before. That's were I ordered the Emanage from, and I hate to get pushy, but I haven't heard anything from them other than the automated response. Do they take a while? I'll try to track down a phone number, I suppose.

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Ding ding ding ding! Cap that nipple.

I don't know what to tell you about Alamo. They treated me well.
...but that was 5 years ago now.

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