Whats everyone's opinion on getting these?!? Ive done some looking and talked to unclebenny about it but i just wanted to here what opinions you all would have. Is the T-Case Bracket a good idea in your mind? Is it useless? And for the Wideband i really like unclebenny's setup he has in his car and was thinking about going with that. What's your opinion?

Thanks
Brian

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You still running just an SAFC for feul control?

Do you launch your car a lot?

Hey Brian:

How's it going? Miss you and the little woman at our events.

Anyway, you might want to check this thread out on the bracket:

http://www.w3si.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1841

Best,

SJ

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Yeah Safc 2 and ill launch the car once in a while

Brian

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Things are going good, We are both working hard to get these cars fixed up, her car is getting a motor rebuild in feburary or march. We'll be at the UMG again for sure!

hmmmm i know i dont have a stock bracket like that so its probably a good idea to get one then.

Brian

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Think of that bracket as insurance. It does help hold the case together and you're not making enough power to break a t-case WITH one.

As for the WB, since you already have a blinky gauge (to see if you're in open/closed loop) and an EGT gauge, how much more HP do you really think you can squeeze out of your setup after getting one? Now let me ask you, is it worth the cost/hastle of buying one?

I'm not saying yes or no either way b.t.w.

Well the way i look at it is i gotta drop out my tranny anyways so the downpipe has to be dropped down and i have the tools to install a wbo2. Also with my egt and blinky guage haha i still fell like im just shooting in the dark, even with a logger cause i still have no way to see what my a/f ratio is with w.o.t pulls and i wanna know that. How can i have no knock and egts reading over 1000c with a a/f guage saying im pig rich at wot? And people telling me they can smell gas outta my exhaust when they are behind me? I check all the wiring for the guages and the safc and everything is hooked up correct. Seems like tuning is a shot in the dark without a wbo2 at least with the setup i got and the readings im getting.

Brian

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I don't remember were your EGT probe is placed, but yes you are right that isn't normal.

The stock o2 gauges are not accurate enough to tune by, but they can tell you ifyou're too far in either direction and if the ECU is in closed or open loop. The old saying is, the EGT's give you a pretty good idea how lean you're running (if it's setup right) by showing you how hot the exhaust is comming from the motor. This was back in the day when WB02s were well over $1000 and only used on dynos.

My new car (not the green one you saw in GB, I'm getting another one) will have both a WB and EGT gauge so I can compare the 2 for my own knowledge and see if the old sayings are true.

Another tuning rumor (which I don't preach) is to lean out the A/F mixture till the point where you get knock, then richen it a tad. This can be dangerous with cast (factory) pistons and leads to dangerously high EGTs (to the point where metal starts melting). Maybe if you were looking for peak HP on the dyno or track, but only for a brief period of time. This is how I tuned my car when I ran the 11.98.

The reason people smell gas when they are following you is because of your blitz BOV. last time I followed you, your car was always smoking when you shifted gears.

Im hoping its black smoke you talking about from being rich and not blue But how would the bov cause the smell of gas? Is a WBo2 good for tuning open loop and closed loop? I would like to get it running decent ..it isnt so much about the horsepower, just getting it so i can drive it with no hesatition or sputtering. Im sure the HP will come in a good tune anyways but im my mind so should driveability and gas milage
Another FYI: My turbos dont start pushing boost til 3500 rpm? Now does that seem normal for 500s?

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You don't really tune for a specific a/f ratio while the ECU is in closed loop. You just want a setting so the O2 cycle back and forth. A w/b is only good for tuning for a more precise a/r ratio when you're accellerating (ecu goes into open loop) and the ECU is ignoring the O2s.

Gas mileage ultimately comes from your right foot.

Sounds like we need another tuning session?

My DR500 car built boost before 3500rpms, but you didn't FEEL the torque until around then (actually, it was a little higher. Probably because of the head work).

UMG would be good if you want to tune the car and give some pointers to me, it would be appreciated! I am thinking about getting the car dynoed next year just for the heck of it to see what kind of numbers it really is putting down. Im curious to see what it can do.

Brian

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