4 cylinder.

90 dollars.

22.50 a spark plug.

re-dic-a-lous.

omg bbq.

wtf?

no coppers made for this car. at least that's what they tell me.

how can that be? not a single copper plug will work! wtf. there are bazillions of copper plugs out there. how can there not be a copper equivalent.

and this is the way ALL car models are going because the general public doesn't work on there own cars, and never wants to change the plugs in it's lifetime... lame.

uber lame.

Does anyone know of a translation page for spark plug part numbers? I do kinda believe page auto, though, they haven't lied to me about parts before. they keep plugs for my stealth in stock for when I drop by...

I'm dis-gruntled. This is horse hockey.

BOO. hundred dollars spent on four plugs... they better be gold plated. Or at least have a mercedes emblem on them.

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Try here:
http://www.ngksparkplugs.com/index2.asp ... &nav=a0000

I looked up a C230 and it showed a plug with 3 ground electrodes.
I don't know what effect it would have changing to a single electrode. I think it is just some kind of German F/I thing, my friend said the is what was on the Zonker when he owned it.

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Just be glad its not a V6 like your Stealth. You be $135 in the hole!!! Just imagine what a person pays to have a dealership install them. First the plug price is probably more like $35-40 each and then the time to install them. Yeesh probably close to $300 for installing plugs. But then again a person who has $$ to buy a Benz should have the moola to pay to get it repaired. Just think if you needed major engine work you would have to take out a second mortgage to pay for it.......

Good luck in finding a copper plug for it.

Kyle

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seriously. wtf.

thanks ver-fer.

2002 MERCEDES-BENZ C230 2.3 L4 M111.975 FI Plugs - DOHC

sounds like my engine...

BCPR5ES-11

copper plug listed as "fits."

sounds amazingly similar to the same plug that fits a 6g72... just a few heat ranges off...

I wonder if they are 22.50 a piece...?

sigh. I am not buying those plugs from page auto. they are saving them for the next c230 owner that wants to get anally pleasured.

Owning some of these cars isn't that expensive, if you know how to work on them. it's getting to be no worse than, say a mitsubishi, that charges over a grand at the dealer for a 60k tune up...

Alot of the parts are bosch, and there not that bad if you look them up yourself.

The part that really gets me, is I told paul specifically to look for NGKs...

(they're not working on it, or putting them in, just getting the plugs. The car is there for tire swap to summer tires and an alignment, cause I run into stuff in the winter.)

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some closure to this thread.

I had them pull the plugs before I left the shop on friday, because none of there numbers for the plugs matched my numbers for the plugs, and the iriduim plugs they ordered were wrong. major wrong. like hole in the piston from hitting the plug wrong.

So they re-ordered, and some how found a copper plug. good news for me.

bad news is, they are not NGK, which I specifically asked for... NGKs came original equipment in the benz.

They got me bosch plugs with three grounding straps... I'm not crazy about that. there is no way to gap these plugs. (not that I'm running high boost in the benz to need to gap them, but still.) The stock plugs that came out only have one strap...

So, I bring the car home, and start on the plugs. the benz has coil on plug! how sweet is that!

first plug came out easy. It should, it's been out three times in the last month...

the rest were stuck like a bish. all four plugs had a redish-brown residue on the porcelain part where it mates to the metal lower half. also had what seemed to be the same on the threads. I'm thinking it's rust, but in an aluminum head, the only thing to rust would be the plugs themselves... I don't know. (kinda scary on a plug that is suppose to last 100k, or what ever iridiums claim.)

All seem to have a normal "color" to the electrode, and no serious wear.

screwed the new ones in after a coat of anti-seeze, started up and ran fine.

driving impressions, low end response and power seem to be a tad (very tad) better, and I no longer have that first start up, cold engine hesitation that it used to have.

other than that, about the same.

I'll just special order the NGK plugs from Napa next time, and compare them to the plugs that are sitting in my tool box now. maybe I'll order some in the next week or so, just because I have to know if the NGK coppers are different... I'm doubting it, though. I think page jsut has a better price through bosch. (they are an authorized dealer.)

Think it would be worth it to try and get MB coils to work on a stealth??? ver fer... ver fer... anyone???

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Why wouldn't it be?!

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