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SJ
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Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:56 pm |
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I can't seem to get a socket on either of the nuts that hold this pipe on -- I presume the front turbo heat shields need to come off?  Do tell. Thanks, SJ
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Turbo_StealthRT
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Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:13 pm |
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Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 9:47 am Posts: 41 Location: St. Paul, MN
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I think you can get a wrench on them, but it is pretty difficult. Your other option is to remove the front turbo heat shield, and then loosen the "top" turbo heat shield. I don't think you can remove the top heat shield without removing the turbo due to the way it wraps around the turbo/manifold.
Brad
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ttangel
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:15 am |
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the heat sheild that wraps around the manifold never really comes off. Mitsu actually molded that one in place using magic and midgets. However, I don't ever remember taking that off when I had two turbos... perhaps we just took the bolts out, and move it out of the way for a bit...
Have you tried wratcheting wrenches?
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G-ELL
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:30 am |
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Joined: Wed Aug 13, 2003 1:18 am Posts: 3153 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA
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Remove the 2 12mm bolts that hold the heat shield on, but you don't need to remove it (because you can't without bending it). Just push it aside.
Then take a 12mm socket on a swivel head extention and you should be able to get them no problem.
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SJ
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:41 am |
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G-ELL wrote: Remove the 2 12mm bolts that hold the heat shield on, but you don't need to remove it (because you can't without bending it). Just push it aside.
Then take a 12mm socket on a swivel head extention and you should be able to get them no problem. So removing the outer one only will do the trick? Good. Thanks Mad Scientist -- I'll give it shot hopefully later today. Best, SJ
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Turbo_StealthRT
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:54 pm |
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SJ wrote: So removing the outer one only will do the trick? Good. Thanks Mad Scientist -- I'll give it shot hopefully later today. Best, SJ I don't think removing the front heat shield will give you enough clearance. You do have to remove the outer/front heat shield to expose the second heat shield. (There are two or three bolts on the front heat shield.) Then the bolts for the second/top heat shield are exposed. You have to loosen this second heat shield and move/twist/manuever it slightly out of the way to access the bolts for the intercooler hard pipe. This second heat shield can't be completely removed due to its geometry. This is what I was trying to state in my previous post, but it may not have been clear. It is a good idea to spray some penetrant on the heat shield bolts prior to removal as the extreme fluctuations in temperature cause them to corrode and they can be pretty tight. Brad
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SJ
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:29 pm |
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Turbo_StealthRT wrote: I don't think removing the front heat shield will give you enough clearance. You do have to remove the outer/front heat shield to expose the second heat shield. (There are two or three bolts on the front heat shield.) Then the bolts for the second/top heat shield are exposed. You have to loosen this second heat shield and move/twist/manuever it slightly out of the way to access the bolts for the intercooler hard pipe. This second heat shield can't be completely removed due to its geometry. This is what I was trying to state in my previous post, but it may not have been clear.
It is a good idea to spray some penetrant on the heat shield bolts prior to removal as the extreme fluctuations in temperature cause them to corrode and they can be pretty tight.
Brad Brad: Thanks for your help, you are right on. Three bolts on the front half (all a joy to get to except one), two exposed on the back half (one hidden under/by the front half). Got the pipe off. What a bloody mess it is in there. Do they sell Simple Green by the five gallon pale? However, I do think the back half will come off as well, but there is some cord attached to it on the drivers side. Looks like it's clamped on real good. 02 sensor wire? Is there an easy way to unclamp it and then put it back beyond prying it open with a screwdriver? I am contemplating painting or getting the heat shields powder coated silver whilst they are off. They also look like kaa kaa. Thanks, SJ
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G-ELL
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:03 am |
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SJ wrote: So removing the outer one only will do the trick? Good. No, I was talking about the one on the manifold, not the one for the turbo. ...but you figured that out already. I would NOT suggest painting the heat shields. The paint won't last and will look crappier once it burns off. Honestly, replace them with new mitsu ones if they're looking pretty ugly.
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SJ
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:05 am |
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G-ELL wrote: SJ wrote: So removing the outer one only will do the trick? Good. No, I was talking about the one on the manifold, on the one for the turbo. ...but you figured that out already. I would NOT suggest painting the heat shields. The paint won't last and will look crappier once it burns off. Honestly, replace them with new mitsu ones if they're looking pretty ugly. I got lucky MS. How about that wire? SJ
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G-ELL
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:25 am |
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That wire is for the O2 sensor. You just bend the metal clip a little and it comes right out.
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SJ
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:35 am |
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G-ELL wrote: That wire is for the O2 sensor. You just bend the metal clip a little and it comes right out. Doesn't look quite that easy, mainly due to space, but I'll give it a shot later, thanks. Okay, the powder coating guy passed -- said it could blister with that high heat. Recommended Eastwood Hi-temp paint. I've had good luck with engine paint off the shelf at Checker -- think it's necessary for the uber expesive Eastwood paint? http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?item ... pe=PRODUCTDo tell. Thanks, SJ
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G-ELL
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:02 am |
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SJ, I was talking from experience about the paint. That surface can get as hot as 1000 degrees. NO paint or powder coat will put up to that.
Even polishing them will make them tarnish.
Jesse had all his turbo stuff go thru a fancy ceramic coating which gave it a polished look and was claimed would never tarnish. You should ask him where he had that done.
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SJ
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 12:08 pm |
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G-ELL wrote: SJ, I was talking from experience about the paint. That surface can get as hot as 1000 degrees. NO paint or powder coat will put up to that.
Even polishing them will make them tarnish.
Jesse had all his turbo stuff go thru a fancy ceramic coating which gave it a polished look and was claimed would never tarnish. You should ask him where he had that done. Yikes. Sounds expensive either way... I guess I'll ask around on both ends of the equation. Thanks, SJ
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SJ
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 3:21 pm |
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Bad news: only the front shield is available from the dealer. Apparently they no longer make the smaller one that sits overtop of the exhaust manifold. I went ahead and ordered that one. SJ
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:00 pm |
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Joined: Mon Dec 01, 2003 9:56 am Posts: 637 Location: Milwaukee
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Why didn't you ask me when I was there yesterday????
Old man!
BOTH heat shields DO come off - done it many times. You just have to be patient, and work at it. They come off, and GO back on.
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