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SJ
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:01 pm |
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Okay, I made the mistake of doing two things at once, so follow along...
I picked up some thermal wrap from Pegasus Racing for the tube that goes over the engine to the rear turbo. Nice stuff, peel, wrap, trim -- easy as cake.
Also, as some of you know, I had TEC strut bar #0002. At the time, Chris was only producing one version until later it was determined clearances were different from 1st to 2nd generations. So my hood constantly rubbed on it. Chris said he
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A923KGT
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:21 pm |
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my .02 HP is that you are just allowing more heat out of the engine bay because of the lack of the underhood insulation. I would expect the long term effects of this could be peeling or fading of the paint on your hood. IMHO the best way would be totake a temp reading on the top of the hood with the insulation and then remove and get another reading to see how much of en effect it has.
I can get the tool from work to do this if you're interested.
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ver fer
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:24 pm |
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I'm going to say it was the heat shield keeping the heat in, but I'm probably wrong.
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ttangel
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:42 pm |
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Joined: Fri Jul 23, 2004 2:25 pm Posts: 2502 Location: Green Bay
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In the time it took you to type that post, you could have put that o-ring on already. anywho. ripping on SJ aside. I'm confused. (yes it was easy.  ) You used heat wrap on an intercooler pipe hoping to reduce underhood temperatures? Or did you also wrap the exhaust manifolds? Wrapping the intercooler pipe that runs over the rear turbo is not to reduce underhood temps. it's to keep the air in the intercooler pipe cool because it's running right over the 9b heat oven. Taking the under hood sheild out probably helped dissapate heat faster, because metal transmitts heat better than fiberglass insulation. hence why auto manufacturers use it. Also, what about the rubber along the fire wall, where the hood meets it? Is that still there, because people have said cutting that out helps reduce temps. The bad: I agree with Aaron, you may kill your paint running without the hood cover. Hell, some people say you'll kill the hood paint just by removing the heat sheilds...! Especially running 18 PSI on 9Bs. P.S. now that you mention heat wrap, I bet your front manifold is cracked from running the gauntlet with your stock headers and turbos...  Something you should check eventually.
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My94r/t
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 5:51 pm |
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Joined: Wed Aug 13, 2003 12:04 am Posts: 1237 Location: Milwaukee, WI
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Like Aaron said: The heat shielding under the hood is used to protect the paint from the underhood temps. The best way to keep the underhood temps down would be to wrap the exhaust manifolds and turbos.
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SJ
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 8:56 pm |
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ttangel wrote: In the time it took you to type that post, you could have put that o-ring on already. It is changed. ttangel wrote: anywho. ripping on SJ aside. What -- yer not gonna stop now are ya? ttangel wrote: I'm confused. (yes it was easy.  ) You used heat wrap on an intercooler pipe hoping to reduce underhood temperatures? Or did you also wrap the exhaust manifolds? No, no, no -- keep the... you answered it. Keep air cool -- no exhaust manifolds -- you saw it Linus. ttangel wrote: <snip> keep the air in the intercooler pipe cool because it's running right over the 9b heat oven. Also, what about the rubber along the fire wall, where the hood meets it? Is that still there, because people have said cutting that out helps reduce temps.[/quote] Yes, and I tried taking the two end ones out. Of course, cabin air comes in there as well soit was hot... and it was my understanding that is a high pressure area so if you removed the main one it would actually attract/force air in there, like a cowel induction, heating rather than cooling. ttangel wrote: The bad: I agree with Aaron, you may kill your paint running without the hood cover. Hell, some people say you'll kill the hood paint just by removing the heat sheilds...! Yeah, I think Aaron maybe right as well. But, I have a new hood coming (you do remember ripping on me previously about that as well at RA, right?  ), so I thought I'd try to save the strut bar. Looks like it's back to the socks mod or I dremel a bunch. ttangel wrote: Especially running 18 PSI on 9Bs. Remind me to kick you in arse next time I see you, okay? ttangel wrote: P.S. now that you mention heat wrap, I bet your front manifold is cracked from running the gauntlet with your stock headers and turbos...  Something you should check eventually. I dunno -- you can rip on -- I mean look -- next time I see your sunny face. My94r/t wrote: Like Aaron said: The heat shielding under the hood is used to protect the paint from the underhood temps. The best way to keep the underhood temps down would be to wrap the exhaust manifolds and turbos. Just to be clear, I wasn't trying to do anything here but keep the air cool. I had to remove the insulation to save the @#$%^! bar. I would *like* to wrap all that stuff, but my rhythm is bad... sorry, it's late, I'm tired, I need a beer. Best, SJ
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MRink
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:52 pm |
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SJ wrote: But, I have a new hood coming (you do remember ripping on me previously about that as well at RA, right?  ) The prancing pony!
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unclebenny
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 11:54 pm |
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DAY-UM, SJ drives a Ferrari!!!!!!!11111111unounounodosdosdostrestrestres Thats super fly yo. I want to be in that club. 
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ttangel
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 7:26 am |
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Joined: Fri Jul 23, 2004 2:25 pm Posts: 2502 Location: Green Bay
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SJ, the cracks in the front manifold are usually hard to see.
I just know that after running them hard, they crack because they suck. Did I mention I thought mine were fine, until I took them off and they were cracked in TWO runners.
They're easy to weld, but it's a HUGE pain to take the stupid thing off to fix...
anywho.
are you even gonna paint the ferarri hood? Maybe if it scoops more air, you'll be okay...
who knows. try it and find out. I hear alot of those fiberglass/carbon fiber hoods crack the paint on them anyway from having so much flex.
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Jhammer
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 7:44 am |
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Joined: Mon May 23, 2005 11:25 am Posts: 605 Location: Waukesha. WI
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SJ,
are you picking up a 5seven5 hood?
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SJ
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 7:58 am |
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MRink wrote: The prancing pony! Hey you sh*t, don't egg him on anymore -- he doesn't need it! unclebenny wrote: DAY-UM, SJ drives a Ferrari!!!!!!!11111111unounounodosdosdostrestrestres Thats super fly yo. I want to be in that club.  Eric, what in the hell were you drinking last night? ttangel wrote: SJ, the cracks in the front manifold are usually hard to see.
I just know that after running them hard, they crack because they suck. Did I mention I thought mine were fine, until I took them off and they were cracked in TWO runners.
They're easy to weld, but it's a HUGE pain to take the stupid thing off to fix.... Uh -- you're not going to show me your cracks, are you? ttangel wrote: anywho.
are you even gonna paint the ferarri hood? Maybe if it scoops more air, you'll be okay...
who knows. try it and find out. I hear alot of those fiberglass/carbon fiber hoods crack the paint on them anyway from having so much flex. Yes, plan on painting it to match. The 575 does have a functioning air scoop that will funnel air over to the air box. In fact, he has said he will make a bottom piece that will then fit with the hood. We'll see... The first gen version also has vents or gills near where the hood blisters are to let heat out. I hope it doesn't crack... all that money...Jhammer wrote: SJ, are you picking up a 5seven5 hood? If it EVER arrives... Damn that was a long post... awe man, it's too early, I gotta drive... please, no autographs... I decided to change the name of the album to "Throw Money"...Somebody help me... Best, SJ
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ttangel
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 10:35 am |
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Joined: Fri Jul 23, 2004 2:25 pm Posts: 2502 Location: Green Bay
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Does anyone know off the top of there head which of the three ports on the top of the throttle body reads pressure only? (ie: reads in front of the throttle plate)
Is it the middle one? That's the one I thought read pressure only...
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unclebenny
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:37 pm |
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So my life rocks so hard that I have 3 cars and 1 motorcycle; the only one that works is the VR-Slow.
A mitsubishi that isn't the first to break? I didn't think it was possible either.
VR-Slow: Fragged motor mounts. Power Cav: Trans is on unemployment, and only shifts for food. Power Neon: (returning champ) Flat tire, costing me $52 for a new one today! 04 YZF-R1: Needs to be put back together; no time, fixing cars.
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ttangel
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:50 pm |
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eh, I just brought the benz in to page auto to have the winter tires taken off, and the summer ones put back on. I have two rears, but need new front tires. so I gave them everything off the rear tire. They apparently did nothing with the car. They wanted the car there to confirm the tire size that I gave them over the phone a week ago, and look up options for me. Let me repeat this because I think it bears repeating. They did not order a tire after I gave them the make, model, and size. They instead had me drop off the car, and go without it for a day. (no small pain in the ass.) I'm not sure if I'm getting crabby in my old age, or just have less of a tolerance for bull****. I mean, wtf. 
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SJ
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:00 pm |
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ttangel wrote: eh, I just brought the benz in to page auto to have the winter tires taken off, and the summer ones put back on. I have two rears, but need new front tires. so I gave them everything off the rear tire. They apparently did nothing with the car. They wanted the car there to confirm the tire size that I gave them over the phone a week ago, and look up options for me. Let me repeat this because I think it bears repeating. They did not order a tire after I gave them the make, model, and size. They instead had me drop off the car, and go without it for a day. (no small pain in the ass.) I'm not sure if I'm getting crabby in my old age, or just have less of a tolerance for bull****. I mean, wtf.  I hate dealers. SJ
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