Alright my turbos are on the way and should be here any day, I ordered my parts today and they are suppose to be here Fri.
If everything comes in I will be planning on swapping the turbos this weekend. If anyone wants to stop by and help out /drink adult beverages that would be cool. Hopefully I'll have the garage cleaned up and alittle more organized before then. I also plan on taking it to the take on Fri. for one last run with the 9b's.

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Gotta skip out on ya. This weekend I'm doing an oil pump, 60K, and fuel pump rewire.

My only suggestion is to pull the driverside axle if you can. It makes pulling the rear turbo a lot easier. It can be done without pulling it, but you gotta be creative.

Did you get new oil lines?

I'll try and be down.

let me know when this is happening. It sounds fun! I don't have any experience changing turbos though.

Did you get new copper washers for the oil/coolant feed/return lines?

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Ordered the washers/gaskets, I was going to reusing the feed and return lines for now it is only going to be on the road until the end of the month. I plan on getting some braided feeds this winter.
I going to try to do it without pulling the axle first since I just changed the tranny fluid.

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It'd be smart to wait to put the turbos in until you can get lines.

I'd like to wait because the are a few things I'd like to do but I'm using Rob Beck's cores so I need to get them back within 45 days to get a full refund. I'm also very impatient and want to play with them yet this year.
Is there a way to clean them semi easily(disconnect and spray brake clean through them).

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I don't think I'd be to worried about spraying out the return lines, as you can pretty much see through those, and make damn sure there are no blocks. but reusing the feedlines might give me a bit of heartburn. They are tiny and not so easy to make sure nothing is blocking them.

Also, after having them on my own engine, the braided are cool, but no so cool that I would skip the feeds and wait. I would get the hard lines from mitsu if they will work on those cores.

Where are you getting the braided from?

the rear line was tits. The front line sucked bawls. the AC bracket has to be modified on the second gens, and the line runs directly under (in contact with) the front manifold. in my profesional opinion this is a shitty way to do it. I called 3sx to see if this was suppose to be the correct routing and they never returned my call, leaving me to believe that the braided in the front is teh suxor.

my 2 cents.

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I'm sure you can work something out with him. Rob's a good guy to do business with.

Don't forget you need new exhaust gaskets as well. Downpipe, O2 housings, and manifolds too.

I understand being anxious to get them on the car, but you will be kicking yourself if a cracked/clogged line ruins your brand new turbos. You will also be thanking yourself for replacing them at the same time as the turbos as you'll have everything out of the way to begin with (IE the radiator).

Matt: Just make a shelf in your room to put them on; thats what I'm doing.

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Ok Ok you talked me into it. I will hold off until I can get the lines. Since I a broke a$$ collage student I will make the lines myself. I looked on 3SX's site and it shows banjo fittings on both ends is this correct? I'm at school right now so I can't look at the motor. Adam how would you reroute the front feed line. I found all the parts I need I just need to get an estimate on how much line to get.
Maybe while I'm waiting I'll do a little porting.

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The front line comes out behind the AC bracket, and angles out from the hole. Banjo bolts will not be able to re-create this angle, unless you have some that come off at a 45 degree or something like that.

The stock line runs out a hole in the "webbing" that is the AC bracket. It's a 40 lb. piece of steel that directly contributes to our cars being known as "phat pigs." I say use a normal banjo bolt, and well chop the AC bracket up a bit with a band saw and make it work. there is no reason for the A/C compressor bracket to be held onto the block with 7 bolts, not counting the ones that actually hold the compressor.

That's retarded.

The reason the lines ran under the manifold is the stainless steel line was just a bit to long. I'm sorry, I don't know how much to shorten it. You could also sleeve it with header wrap. that would probably help. maybe. or not.

I think if you added a little onto the stock line length you'd be fine, but I don't remember what it all had to loop around.

Are you gonna braid the returns? cause that sucks to try and get to work. just to let you know. I'd just get new stock ones.

Do the 13Ts put the feed and returns in a different spot? cause otherwise you could just pick up the hardlines and not bother with all this horse manure.

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This is a crude ASCII drawing. The O means a bolt hole on the AC bracket.

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Feed Line v
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| O | O <- bolt section of AC bracket
| ----- we removed for SS line
[ ] <- center cartrage O O [ ]
[ ] (turbo) [ ] <- oil filer housing
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Return Line

EDIT: For some reason the spaces aren't showing up. Quote this message to see the drawing with the spaces.

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The feed lines are supposed to be in the same location but I thought I remember reading the they had to be moved a little. I found a 35 degree banjo adapter. What is the reason for the banjo, could a regular fitting be used? Are they using it to limit flow?


You should design a new lighter bracket in you spare time.

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No, the problem was the space between the block and the bracket. The stock hardline fit perfectly, but the 3sx line bumped into the bolt hole. We couldn't make it fit so we cut out the section of the bracket that held that bolt hole.

Ah now I understand.
I was hoping I could still pull this off quickly. The parts for the feed lines are not going to be that much.

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