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Jhammer
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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 6:44 pm |
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Joined: Mon May 23, 2005 11:25 am Posts: 605 Location: Waukesha. WI
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Quote: I think you should hook it up with the stock injectors and get any kinks worked out that come up. so, the first thing I should buy and install is the e-manage? Then add the turbo and supporting part?
_________________ 1993 3000GT VR-4 (build in progress)
1994 3000GT SL
Lead, Follow, or get out of my way!
Also know as:
"dead weight", "wrong wheel drive noob"
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ver fer
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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 9:53 pm |
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How soon do you plan on doing this? The MAFTPro may be another option which will allow you to run a ls1/6 maf or speed density. It is also suppose to do timing as well in the future. http://www.3si.org/forum/showthread.php?t=283937If this will be done over winter I'd wait on the E-manage and see how this works. As far an extention tube for the rear turbo that is what the GN's use and would be similar to what Subaru is using for the WRX/STI up-pipe i think. Also I would not paint/powdercoat the IC it may reduce the cooling.
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G-ELL
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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 10:00 pm |
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Joined: Wed Aug 13, 2003 1:18 am Posts: 3153 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA
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There's a few more baby steps. If it were me, I'd go:
Full 120K tuneup datalogger e-manage wideband O2 fuel pump & rewire speed density (throw away stock maf) injectors turbo setup
Doing things one at a time makes the whole process a lot easier because if you mess something up, you know exactly what the problem is. Also leaves your car driveable so you can see the improvements with each step. If anything, it gives you more time with your car which really helps in the modivation department.
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ttangel
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 7:04 am |
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Joined: Fri Jul 23, 2004 2:25 pm Posts: 2502 Location: Green Bay
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Or Go AEM Standalone. ver fer wrote: As far an extention tube for the rear turbo that is what the GN's use pffffft. like those are fast. I might even put WB02 before Emanage. just a little bit before.
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Jhammer
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 7:08 am |
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Joined: Mon May 23, 2005 11:25 am Posts: 605 Location: Waukesha. WI
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Full 120K tuneup --- need help with this datalogger --- have one in mind for a 94? e-manage --- no problem, and add a pressure and temp sensor? wideband O2 --- Which one works best with e-manage? fuel pump & rewire --- supra pump or walbro? speed density (throw away stock maf) --- doesn't the e-manage cover this? injectors --- what size did we agree one? turbo setup --- where is the best place to mount an external wastegate?
_________________ 1993 3000GT VR-4 (build in progress)
1994 3000GT SL
Lead, Follow, or get out of my way!
Also know as:
"dead weight", "wrong wheel drive noob"
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ttangel
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 7:33 am |
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Full 120K tuneup --- need help with this ~ not a problem datalogger --- have one in mind for a 94? ~ shiver hybrid logger e-manage --- no problem, and add a pressure and temp sensor? ~ you'll need to look into this. your gonna need all there wire harnesses, minimum pressure and temp sensor. wideband O2 --- Which one works best with e-manage? ~ still working on that. I think that there is two ways to do this. let me think more fuel pump & rewire --- supra pump or walbro? ~ personal preference speed density (throw away stock maf) --- doesn't the e-manage cover this? ~ with the right sensors, though we have yet to set one up injectors --- what size did we agree one? ~ 1600cc turbo setup --- where is the best place to mount an external wastegate? ~ right by the flux capacitor.
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G-ELL
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 8:37 am |
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Jhammer wrote: e-manage --- no problem, and add a pressure and temp sensor? I'd hold off on the sensors (which is what I meant by speed density) because you can hook up the emanange and still use the stock MAS. It's really easy then because if we hook everything up right, the car should start and run like stock. Adding the sensors at the same time makes more variables. What's going to happen is, you remove the MAS, and then you're going to need more fuel because the stock injectors won't be able to keep up. See what I'm saying? As for a wideband, doesn't greddy have their own version? I'd imagine it'd just be plug and play if that were the case.
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ttangel
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 9:31 am |
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As far as I know, most people were using AEM or that LM-1 and using the linear out voltage line 0-5 volts and feeding it to the emanage in the V-tec signal or something. I'm not sure. there should be a few places we can feed it in through the ultimate.
Did Aarons have a WB plug in option? I didn't see it. I know mine did not.
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Jhammer
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 11:14 am |
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1600cc injectros, and a flux capacitor??! damn, I will need to add time circuits and a "Mr. Fusion" too. Now this project is getting expensive!  Quote: Did Aarons have a WB plug in option? I didn't see it. I know mine did not. I didn't see it listed in the specs I found on it.
_________________ 1993 3000GT VR-4 (build in progress)
1994 3000GT SL
Lead, Follow, or get out of my way!
Also know as:
"dead weight", "wrong wheel drive noob"
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 1:38 pm |
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Jhammer wrote: injectors --- what size did we agree one? turbo setup --- where is the best place to mount an external wastegate? I honestly have no idea what injectors you'd need. You'd want the smallest injector you can run at under 80% duty cycle. We won't know until we try. The external wastegate needs to be mounted as close to the turbo as possible, somewhere between the motor and the turbo.
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ttangel
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 1:47 pm |
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If your NA are you gonna go with high resistance injectors? Or are you going to cross over into the realm of TT injectors?
I mean I have a set of 360 injectors for a TT laying around. I wouldn't put them in a car without flow testing them, but if you want to borrow them (keep them if they work well on the car, pay me later) and test it out your more than welcome. Then if you need to step up, all you have in them is the money for a flow test. and then you can get turbo DSM injectors, or 550 injectors or whatever...
Just throwing that out there.
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 2:11 pm |
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ttangel wrote: If your NA are you gonna go with high resistance injectors? Or are you going to cross over into the realm of TT injectors? OH YEH! I completely forgot about that too. How does the e-manage deal with it?
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ttangel
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 2:17 pm |
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I assume your talking to me, and as I have no Idea I'm going to look behind me and pretend your talking to someone else. I think you hook up a different set of jumpers on the ultimate, but I don't know on the blue. Aaron, you were sitting right there when we were going through the jumpers. what the hell did we do? I thought there was a different set that would do more or less voltage... thought... Just switch over. it'll be easier. 
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Jhammer
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 2:27 pm |
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Quote: If your NA are you gonna go with high resistance injectors? Or are you going to cross over into the realm of TT injectors? yeap, I was planning on going with TT injectors, and if you want to part with those 360cc for awhile, that would be great.
_________________ 1993 3000GT VR-4 (build in progress)
1994 3000GT SL
Lead, Follow, or get out of my way!
Also know as:
"dead weight", "wrong wheel drive noob"
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 8:56 pm |
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I will have a set of dsm 450cc injectors that won't be use until Adam sells me his e-manage. I'm guessing they will be maxed out when I get the 13Ts in.
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