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unclebenny
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:12 pm |
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That's all you spend on parts? Cool, I'll take your heads and turbos for half that cause they're used 
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i3ivix17
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:45 pm |
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good to hear its all running good jesse. My current update, i just gotta find and fix some boost leaks, and tune it. The reason my idle was high was because my TPS was at 16%, then i readjusted the throttle cable and that brought it down to 14%. Just adjusted it back to 9%, for some reason i thought it was supposed to be at 14%  Second, the only reason i could find that my fuel pump was running when the battery was hooked up was cuz of the kenne bell boost a pump. i disconnected a wire that lead to the power for the fuel pump and that solved that problem. Hopefully tomorrow ill have it all right and ill be happy once again. i just bought a used dnp ypipe, so once i get that ill have it powder coated and thatll help my engine bay look better. Hes just one pic of what it looks like. Camera sucks so it makes it look kinda shitty, but its a LOT better in person. 
_________________ 1994 Stealth R/T TT Pearl Yellow
-Out since June 05'
-Almost ready for start up
1991 Stealth R/T Red
-Out for 7 weeks with a spun bearing
-Came back to life on 8/04/07
-Blew the motor again on 11/25/07
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JRink
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:02 pm |
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Joined: Mon Jul 28, 2003 12:00 pm Posts: 871 Location: Eagle, WI
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Adam - I bought PTE680 injectors from IPO. I'll have Denso 720s for sale after I get them fixed and flow tested.
Jeff - you DO need to charge more!
Eric - HAH, nice try, but I won't go 50% cause they're used. I'll go 85% cause they only have 3.5 miles on them. So fork over a 20-spot and we'll call it even.
Brandon - Looking good. Let me know if you need any help with getting things going.
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G-ELL
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:13 pm |
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Joined: Wed Aug 13, 2003 1:18 am Posts: 3153 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA
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440 4x4 wrote: Good God - to quote you  I really need to charge more  I hope you weren't accepting that Milwaukee's best crap we keep seeing in all Jesse's car pictures. One would assume he paid in the form of a decent beer like Miller.  j/k!
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440 4x4
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:35 pm |
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Joined: Mon Dec 01, 2003 9:56 am Posts: 637 Location: Milwaukee
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i3ivix17
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 12:19 pm |
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started my car up and it dies right away. adjusted the tps to 10% and still dies. even kept adjusted the low setting on the arc2 and nothing. anyone have any clues at all?
_________________ 1994 Stealth R/T TT Pearl Yellow
-Out since June 05'
-Almost ready for start up
1991 Stealth R/T Red
-Out for 7 weeks with a spun bearing
-Came back to life on 8/04/07
-Blew the motor again on 11/25/07
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G-ELL
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 12:37 pm |
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Joined: Wed Aug 13, 2003 1:18 am Posts: 3153 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA
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Well buddy, there's a lot of variables to look thru. For starters, which version of the ARC do you have and are you 100% sure it's hooked up correctly (making good connections)?
What injectors are you running again (just post a whole list of everything you have done)? Jesse's problem with the 720's was the motor was just flooded with gas.
Let's eliminate those 2 things and work from there.
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i3ivix17
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 12:52 pm |
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G-Ell wrote: Well buddy, there's a lot of variables to look thru. For starters, which version of the ARC do you have and are you 100% sure it's hooked up correctly (making good connections)?
What injectors are you running again (just post a whole list of everything you have done)? Jesse's problem with the 720's was the motor was just flooded with gas.
Let's eliminate those 2 things and work from there. i have the newest version of the arc2, and im positive i got the arc2 hooked up right. when my car was running last time, it worked then. The mods i did over winter were new arc2, denso 720cc, denso pump hotwired, sx fuel filter, sx fpr, steel braided lines, ek2 fuel rails, and i just got a dnp ypipe today. One thing i forgot to mention, i do have a vac leak around the orings for the tb shaft.
_________________ 1994 Stealth R/T TT Pearl Yellow
-Out since June 05'
-Almost ready for start up
1991 Stealth R/T Red
-Out for 7 weeks with a spun bearing
-Came back to life on 8/04/07
-Blew the motor again on 11/25/07
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JRink
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 2:01 pm |
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Does the car start at all? Or just crank but never fire?
You need to check if you're getting fuel. Power up the fuel pump connector with 12v near the pass side strut tower and see if your fuel pressure gauge shows fuel pressure. Stock is 39psi or so at idle.
In my case, I had too much fuel and flooded the engine severely to the point where the car ran on its own for 30 seconds WITHOUT a fuel pump. That's bad. hehe.
Post your arc2 settings. I have an arc2 as well as matt clinton and greg ellingson. We can give you help there.
Check for fuel leaks also.
_________________  Best in Show - NG07 2010 - 6G74/3.5L E16Gs - 688awhp/679awtq (Race+Meth) 2011 - 6G74/3.5L 68HTAs - 740awhp/762awtq (Race+Meth) 2013 - 6G74/3.5L MTC Stage4 - 908awhp/832awtq (Race+Meth)
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i3ivix17
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 2:09 pm |
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JRink wrote: Does the car start at all? Or just crank but never fire?
You need to check if you're getting fuel. Power up the fuel pump connector with 12v near the pass side strut tower and see if your fuel pressure gauge shows fuel pressure. Stock is 39psi or so at idle.
In my case, I had too much fuel and flooded the engine severely to the point where the car ran on its own for 30 seconds WITHOUT a fuel pump. That's bad. hehe.
Post your arc2 settings. I have an arc2 as well as matt clinton and greg ellingson. We can give you help there.
Check for fuel leaks also. when the TPS was at 9-10% it started up, but but died 1 second after. Then i adjusted the TPS to 11%, then it just turned over but didnt start. i have the fpr set at 30psi and it is getting fuel. My arc2 settings around this: low -1 mid -5 high 0 accel +2
_________________ 1994 Stealth R/T TT Pearl Yellow
-Out since June 05'
-Almost ready for start up
1991 Stealth R/T Red
-Out for 7 weeks with a spun bearing
-Came back to life on 8/04/07
-Blew the motor again on 11/25/07
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JRink
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 2:19 pm |
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Joined: Mon Jul 28, 2003 12:00 pm Posts: 871 Location: Eagle, WI
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Your high setting is way off. Should be -6 or -7 BUT that shouldn't matter for idle. When you say +2 for accel, what clock position is it at? 8 o'clock or 2 o'clock? The accel is the only knob that has it's zero point at 6 o'clock instead of 12 o'clock. I'd also change mid to -6 or -7. Again, that shouldn't effect idle though........ Lo and Accel seem to be the only ones that effect idle.
When you say those are your settings, have they been your settings from the time you FIRST tried starting the car? is it possible the first time or two you tried to crank it, you had something different? IF so, you may have shitload of fuel in the lines or motor.
I wouldn't worry two shits about your tps sensor right now. Just make sure you have slack in your throttle cable and forget what % it's at for now.
You just need the right combo of fuel (amount regulated by the arc2, AND also the fuel pressure) and air to have it start up. Be aware though, even if you have the EXACT right settings, it may still not start IF you engine is flooded (ahem).
A quick way to get rid of all the fuel in the motor is to crank it with the fuel pump unpowered. It'll burn up all the fuel in the lines... Once it does, then reconnect the pump and set your pressure at 39psi and go with the standard -1, -6, -7, +2 accel settings and it SHOULD start.
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G-ELL
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 4:49 pm |
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Brandon, first off, I think you're going to pull you hair out trying to dummy down those huge 720's to run like the stockers. I know you have plans to put larger turbos on the car, but if you're going to be driving around with the 9B's for a while, save yourself the headache, and put the stock injectors back in and raise your fuel pressure to 43-45psi to make up for the extra air the ARC MAF allows in. This will make your 360's flow more like 415cc injectors, and you can run as much boost as the turbos will allow.
I know it seems like back tracking, but trust me, it will be easier to set aside those monsters till you get the turbos, than deal will the timing advance/knock. Also, this will make any other issues (if any) easier to diagnos because that's one less variable to consider.
That aside, Jesse is correct, you need to lean out the ARC quite a bit more. Remember the 720's are 2x as big as stock, so you need about half the signal to get the ECU to run them like stock. Each click is 5% so for starters, you'd need 8 clicks to the left for the Low and 2 clicks to the right from the Accell to get -50%. OR -7 clicks on the Low, and 3 clicks on the Accell. See how that works?
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unclebenny
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 12:03 pm |
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Brandon, you are a crazy man! I would not want to be trying to tune 720's on 9B's....thats about the most extreme mismatch you can come up with. That is going to be hard to tune, and timing is going to be whack. The MAP ECU is on its way kids! Now I get to stare at it sitting on the table until after the national gathering. 
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i3ivix17
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 2:40 pm |
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Joined: Wed Sep 03, 2003 8:45 pm Posts: 396 Location: Sheboygan Wisconsin
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right now i really dont know what to do. Ive been talking to justin form DR for the past few weeks as he was helping me out. He was saying that the orings on my TB that are leaking is not helping the car out at all. He even said that the 720s shouldnt be affecting the idle at all. So i dont know what really to do now.
_________________ 1994 Stealth R/T TT Pearl Yellow
-Out since June 05'
-Almost ready for start up
1991 Stealth R/T Red
-Out for 7 weeks with a spun bearing
-Came back to life on 8/04/07
-Blew the motor again on 11/25/07
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unclebenny
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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 7:34 pm |
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Joined: Wed Oct 08, 2003 3:27 am Posts: 934 Location: Oconomowoc WI
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I got my MAP ECU today! This thing is freaking TINY! The pictures make it look much larger than it actually is. I am a little pissed that the damn thing showed up with scratches on it. I know its not going to impact its functionality, but when you pay that much for something you expect it to be in good shape when you get it. (considering its brand new)
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