I just ordered my timing belt, aluminum pulley, and other 60k stuff. woot! Decided to do this stuff while I'm swapping my turbos. (Jesse's unused DR500s) I have also decided to try and do this myself/with other w3s members in my garage. Anyone who wants to help is more than welcome to show up. Depending on if I can get the goldwing out of the garage, I will probably have a couch and lazyboy in the garage for the peanut gallery.

I also bought one of the aluminum pressure testers from 3sx, as it's another tool to use with my new kick ass aircompressor. So anyone who needs a pressure test is welcome to use that also.

I will be running 550's with an emanage, but I am not sure If I want to install that at the same time as to help diagnose potential problems, so anyone out there with e-manage experience and a Saturday/Sunday off would be a great help, as I have none.

This will all go down in late March / early April (spring), as currently my car is hiding from snow flakes in a storage shed in Luxemburg, while I am in Green Bay.

Thanks in Advance,
Adam

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Might I suggest doing things 1 at a time. What I mean is, let's first do the timing belt stuff, put everything back together, then start the car, and go for a drive around the block.

Then move on to the turbos.

Then move on to the E-manage.

Then do fuel.

Why? I've found it's always easier to do things one at a time. This way if you mess something up, you know right where to look. (right Jesse?) You can take the most care in doing a project, but there always seems to be something minor you overlook. When that happens, it's easy to figure out what it is with fewer variables. Yes, this takes a lot more time, but trust me, this is the best way to do it.

We can do things in any order (well mostly). It's just better if we do them one at a time. Heck, install the e-manage 1st and learn how to use it before putting in anything else. It's easy to tune for stock.

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I think it would be better to install the e-manage while stock and get an idea how it works then do the turbos and fuel.
From what I remember from my reading about it it will do a global adjustment for injector size. So tuning should be a little easier after being set up stock.

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I was planning on holding off on the emanage/ fuel upgrade, as I realize that there are more variables with just that one piggyback than probably everything else that I have going on the car. Sorry I didn't make that very clear. I will look into getting a e-manage ready to go before i play with the turbos/timing belt now, though, if it's that much easier. I suppose then you can zero everything out and play with stuff one adjustment at a time, each seperately???

I thought that I would want to do the timing belt/accs. at the same time as the turbos to free up wrench room, though. Are they easier to get at than I think. It's been a long winter, but I seem to remember thinking to myself last summer, boy that rear turbo looks like a forker to get at. I'm glad that I don't feel the need to change it.

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We can do it in any order you want. If your car is over due for a t-belt change, I'd definately start with that. You can run DR500's on a stock car at stock boost too. The turbo swap is going to be the hardest part of the whole job, and I, personally, like to start with the most difficult stuff to get it out of the way.

The only thing we can't do 1st is fuel because, obviously, we need a way to control it.

Your call.

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That seven bucks for coolant could be used for beer after we're done. hmmm... Sorry, my Green Bay is showing. I'm sure we'll figure it out while we're staring at the engine bay. No worries.

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I agree with that when it comes to mixing electrical changes and mechanical changes (which is why I put my arc2 in before this winter's changes). However, if it were me, I'd knock out the 60k and turbos at the same time to save mucho headache/time. Of course, 60k scares me even after watching Jeff do two of them so I doubt I'd ever attempt one myself, lol.

I'm more confident pulling the motor than doing a 60k myself - go figure. I guess it's cause there's not much to screw up by pulling a motor compared to having to set timing, etc.

If you're planning on doing both, might as well write off the entire weekend. I know some people can whip that shit out in mere hours, but if you're attempting it for the first time Adam, plan to be working on it all weekend long - Especially if your selection of tools is minimal.

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I will block out a weekend. If the car gets laid up for a while it's no biggie. I just don't want the month long turbo swap thing happening.

I will try and hook up the e-manange before hand and play with it a bit so I know my arse from my elbow when it comes time to tune.

I have a fair selection of hand tools. my air tool selection is a little lacking. I also have the backing of every hand tool every used by the modern mechanic in snap on or matco less than three blocks away, which I can borrow whenever. I also have a full fledged engine shop with all the tools(as in lathe, boring machine, plaining heads/ manifolds, mean nasty welders in stick or wire variety) that a sick car could ever need that we can borrow for a bit on weekends. The only problem is that my uncle, nor anyone is his shop has any idea how to work on a 3S. They're all old school carb fed push rod big cubic inch guys. The only turbo car they've ever worked on was a 383 stroker with a ray-jay turbo from an airplane in world war 2. So tools should not pose a problem. Just knowledge.

If we somehow manage to mess up the timing bad enough that the engine plays the valve train hockey the real fun will start a little sooner than I expected. If you haven't blown the engine at least once your not going as fast as you can(I thought you knew that Jesse ). Plus every gearhead needs to rebuild at least one engine in his life. bigger pistons. Stronger rods. AEM standalone. Ported heads. Spin it 10000 rpm 'til it breaks again. wash rinse repeat. I knew this car was going to cost quite a bit if I wanted to make it go way fast, but so will any car. It's just a matter of how fast you want to spend, and right now I have no kids/girlfriends/alcohol addictions. Just a slightly insane want to make a 3 liter into a true contender in every stoplight grand prix and a lot of overtime coming up.

Besides, nobody else around here seems to have a want to break a six speed tranny.

That being said I would like to step up gradually as to try and retain some knowledge from the stuff that I do to the car.

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I dont think you'll mess anything up. Greg said he'd help, he's done it before... Should be a piece of cake for you guys. One thing you might wanna have ahead of time though, is spare bolts and studs for the turbos since those have a tendency to break during removal. I have spares if you need any.

For me, and my piece of mind, I just prefer paying Jeff the cash to do it. If I had a plain jane 3S i didn't care much about, I'd sure as hell do it myself just to say I did it (I'm sure I could...), but with the Maroon beast, eh, I'm not into taking any chances.

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I have all the handy tools that make this job easier. The only thing we really need the air compressor for is reinstalling the crank pulley bolt. When you install an UDP, they never put holes for the crank tool. That tool keeps the motor from spinning when tightening/loosening that bolt.

You'll find it's not hard at all and very over hyped. It just takes time and patience.

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I went with the 3sx aluminum pulley, just not underdriven.



ouch. I think your just jealous 'cause my car still gets dirty on occasion. It takes a special kind of person to make a muesem quality show car and keep it that way. I am not that guy. I want to beat on my car occasionally, and not worry about stones chipping the paint. Hell there are a lot of things that will chip paint at 130 mph. but I do appreiciate those cars that dedicate there lives to being trailer queens. (and there owners, I suppose) That being said, why do you still have the stock center three gauges in your car? Do you have plans to chrome them, too? again.

And don't get me wrong, I'm not in a hurry to blow the son of a bean up, but if it goes, it's not the worst thing in the world. I think that building one of the meanest three liter engines out there would be a blast, and learning an AEM standalone would be an absolute trip. Scary as hell, but fun. I wonder if you can get one with a chrome cover. Or just spectra chrome it.

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I think you read WAYYY more into that comment than you needed. It wasn't a "shot" at your car you dork. Nor was I calling YOUR car plain jane. Relax. Deep breaths. You just need to realize my anal retentiveness for my car and that I don't even trust myself to do many things to it - hence Jeff working on it with me. Drink a Milwaukee's Best.

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Oh, you'd like that wouldn't you.

I didn't read anything into it, I just couldn't let that one slip by. It'd be like me saying worm spale and you just letting it slide.

So are you coming up to help, or not? dork.

BTW, I was serious about the center gauges. Quit whinning about the air bag and get on that.

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LMAO!



That one doesn't have the holes for the tool either... Doesn't matter. Do you have a 22mm deep impact socket? Do you have a torch too? The DP can be a b*T(h to remove from the 02 housings if it hasn't ever been done before.

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